Just Masterbating is fine?

The app’s baseline sobriety definition is pornand you can add to that if you deem necessary. Mine targets all my compulsive behaviors, which I do believe are objectively harmful. I don’t think the devs want us fighting in the comments of all the multiple “What if I (gratification-seeking behavior that’s not porn)” posts that get made every day.

Don’t listen to people who say you can jack off and ejaculate your seed. The deeper goal behind no porn is to not ejaculate and waste your semen which is your ‘life force energy’ the most powerful energy on earth. Dont waste it

I’d personally say no, don’t do either of it. Both are disordered actions and grave sins if you’re Christian. Pick up your cross and deny yourself. You have a vice to conquer, don’t negotiate with it, cut it off.

What Sebastian says is correct. Masturbation is a normal human behavior it’s not a sad excuse to just orgasm when the truth is it’s a lot healthier than porn. If you jerk off very often and it is interrupting your life then it is an addiction and you should stop beating it as much. but doing it every now and then is normal.

It’s perfectly fine so long as it doesn’t tempt you to watch porn. Jacking off does mess with your dopamine receptors, but that’s SUPPOSE to happen when you jack off normally. The problem lies in using porn in conjunction with it. Think of your dopamine like a lemon, and when we do dopamanergic activities throughout the day, the lemon gets squeezed little by little. Watching porn takes that lemon to a juicer and squeezes it dry till there’s no juice left. Which is why we consume more and more porn, and why the consumption is more and more intense each time we try to find something new. I admit I searched up some werid and messed shit to get that same hit of dopamine from watching porn, it was bad man. But doing my long periods of not watching porn but still masturbating, my mind would slowley reset. Replacing the memories I would use of porn while jerking off, with healthier thoughts over time. Slowley but surely I wouldn’t even use my memories of porn to jerk off because I was forgetting them which is good. So your yea it OKAY to jerk off without porn. Your brain will still reset regardless. So plz plz plz don’t be so hard on yourself(hehe funny joke) when you jerk off. Cause if you go completely cold turkey chances are you’re gonna relapse. If wacking the chain keeps your urges at bay then go ahead. If it makes you wanna watch more than stop. It’s all on you and how you approach it. Stay strong and keep going👍

Yeah it is still an addiction. Also majority of times people are masturbating they are also lusting in their mind - so I think it’s a sad excuse just to orgasm without watching porn. Don’t do it. You don’t need it