Masturbation without porn

I think it depends, were you thinking about past hook ups and random porn in your mind? Or where your thinking about your significant other who you love? I think the first is a reset and the second thing not.

The point is to stop touching yourself and to focus on bettering yourself life, whether it’s porn or not just stop masturbating and use that energy for something productive and positive

I think your brain is still doing the same thing whether you use your imagination or not. This whole program is about rewiring your brain, so my opinion is you are not doing yourself any favors. It’s just prolonging the bad and working in the wrong direction. You don’t need it, and justifying it only prolongs the length of your recovery. Stay strong https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/apr/humans-struggle-differentiate-imagination-reality

Yeah I think you’re trying to justify something to feel good. It’ll suck but push through it

stop coping and grow up.

It’s like being an alcoholic and drinking 3 bears every once in a while, technically you are not getting drunk, but trust me it will lead to relapsing eventually. Don’t forget that you are an addict and every similar activity to masturbation with porn is a risk for a relapse. It’s not worth it really.

I partly agree with you but if masturbation is occasional it doesn't pose a problem I think. in my case, I no longer want pornography in my life but if I don't masturbate my body will come out on its own at night in the bed when I sleep

I disagree holding your penis in your hand and jacking it until you release wether watching porn or not isn’t normal while it may not be as worse as it is while viewing pornography it still takes energy away doing the act itself it’s not masculine for a man to have to satisfy his urge using his hand to each its own everyone’s journey is a bit different