Can I still mastrubate without porn, or is that defeating the purpose.

If that’s the case, then no masturbating either. At my four day mark of NoFap this time around I hooked up with this girl and the sex was the best I had in years, I can only imagine what will be like on Day 11 or higher.

I’m only really looking for the feel good effects and sex drive

I’ll tell you what someone else told me when i asked this question. It all depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to quit porn? Are you trying to quit masturbating? Are you trying to gain control over yourself? Or are you trying to get closer to God. It doesn’t matter what your goal is, as long as you know what it is. My goal is to stop giving into temptation, masturbation falls into that. I have serious self control problems. Porn is a major part of it along with nicotine. I used to have drugs and alcohol on top of all of it. All of it put together shattered my ego, my confidence, and left me feeling hopeless. I quit drugs cold turkey and drinking is down to maybe once a month. Porn and nicotine is causing me to feel lost in my relationship. Porn caused me to be unfaithful as i was searching for my fantasies elsewhere when my wife wasn’t around. I found myself addicted to kinks that made me feel dirty and ashamed. On top of that, i lost attraction to my wife and wait for her to go to bed (or even get mad and irritable when she takes too long to go to bed). Nicotine, my wife doesnt like, has lead me to hide it making me feel guilty and ultimately resenting her.