From my perspective its not a relapse. It depends on your goals. For me this goal is to avoid porn at all. Without porn I don't feel that craving for more. When I do it myself with porn I spend about 10-20 hours watching porn in a week. In times where I succeed avoiding porn, I only spend about 15 minutes in a week doing it. It is by far not as addicting as watching porn. That's my thought

For me it leads me to the same mindset that I have with 🌽. So I avoid it completely this is from a Christian perspective my body is meant for my future wife and the only way I will experience the intimacy I crave and not feel guilt or shame will be with her.

To me it’s not a relapse, because that’s not the problem. Masturbating can even have some health benefits, but I think it has to be for the right reasons. I even asked my wife what she thought, and she told me it doesn’t bother her if I’m not thinking of someone else.

Not it. Ur just saying that cuz ur wanna beat ur shit really bad

Depends on your goals I have more of a problem with masturbating more than porn so I’m just trying to remove all of it