Does this count as relapsing

Yes it is a relapse

That’s natural, man

I don’t think so. This is abt getting off porn not getting away from all sexual desires. But jacking off still ain’t good for you, find a woman or quit.

I believe it is better than porn 110%. But I think the big goal is to direct all sexual energy to your significant other and if you don’t have one then to some activity that makes you better, like exercise. I think this is about having control over yourself not giving control over to your body. If you jerked once a month and never watched porn, for example, I don’t think that would hurt you. But for many it can become a slippery slope so best to focus on gaining that control first.