Is it cheating if I masterbate with out porn

that's some really good advice from dono. the idea is to rewire your brain here and absence from fap AND porn is good for that. if you're finding yourself thinking about porn related things while you do that i'd say your brain is still getting that stimuli in a way you should be trying to stop

I agree the loophole method is cheating . HOWEVER don’t let this be a reason for a full on relapse. The goal is to get rid of the porn and in your journey that needs to be the number one thing to focus on. I’d say reset, but only if your thoughts while doing it were porn related. The idea is to get your brain to stop being stimulated by porn.

I think so. I was at 23 days. My brain was finding every excuse to masturbate without porn. Any article online to justify to bust a nut. Then hour later I was back to porn. I’m now on day 8 but don’t let your brain trick you. It’s a gateway back to porn.

When you're debating loopholes with yourself, that's already a guilty verdict imo

Is it cheating for a recovering alcoholic to chill in a bar all night? It’s may seem like it’s a solution when in reality it’s a loophole. I thought the same way for a long time and each time it just intensifies the urge to watch porn. So stay away from both

Me as well