No porn but—

Mental images is natural to masturbate to but porn is very much a man made thing. I say if it’s natural then it’s not relapsing, but I’m not telling you to go fuck a tree.

I’d say yes cause what you see doesn’t matter but what you do like jerk off does

Pictures and videos is relapsing IMO. Also try not to think of porn in your thoughts. You will notice that the longer you stay without porn, the less porn-images will pass through your head (unless you intentionally think of it)

Hope that helps brother stay strong

I say no to pictures just bc it still keeping the habit of being stuck looking at your phone to get sexual pleasure, and trust me i’ve had similar issues Just mental images while jerking off i think is the next step up and doesnt count as relapse Next step i feel is not needing to fantasize while masturbating

actually with pictures it can depends

mental no pictures yeah